April 21, 2017 VPWG Meeting Page

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  • Denise Tayloe
  • Jim Kragh
  • Dave Burhop
  • Christine Abruzzi
  • Jeff Brennan
  • Roy Asfar
  • Catherine Schulten
  • Tom Jones
  • Linda Braun, Global Inventures

Meeting Notes:

Old Business:

  • Lin Higgins and Roy Asfar from Veterans Advantage to a provide date when they could present their program to VPWG
    • No update
  • Wendy Fairfield to provide more information on FIDO
    • No update

New Business

  • Dave Burhop – provided some background on the work the DMW has been doing associated with vulnerable populations. This all started when Denise Tayloe asked Dave about what the Vulnerable Populations workgroup could do. PRIVO already has an e-credential framework established and we thought why can’t DMW provide the attribute verification and be the attribute provider for bringing those credentials up to a particular level of assurance. In the next 8-10 weeks hiatus, a small group of the VPWG are getting together to put together a pilot. Our technical folks have already spoken and are getting together to demonstrate how a pilot might work. What makes it easy is that PRIVO already has the framework established. Homeless and correctional populations don’t have access to relying parties other than what we can coordinate with them in terms of Virginia agencies where they would get their services.
  • We started to move down this road with the CASS system in Virginia (Commonwealth Authentication Services System) that was established through HHS Department at the federal level and we got funding to build that system. CMS said 49 other states don’t have what Virginia has so we are going to come out with a free service that allows state agencies to authenticate individuals for Medicaid transactions for free. HHS contracted with another organization and that put the stop on CASS, which was unfortunate.
  • DMW was doing a lot of authentication for Virginia residents. We connected with outside organizations so we could authenticate outside of Virginia.
  • Anyone who gets an ID card from Virginia DMV must prove their identity and legal presence in the U.S. They don’t need to provide a Social Security number if they are only getting an ID card.
  • DMW users in Virginia can get to their credentials through their DMW Now account. 2.8M people have accounts. If they already have a driver’s license they have an e-credential.
  • Denise Tayloe – gave an overview of what she hopes to accomplish with Dave Burhop. At PRIVO Denise is charged with verifying the identity of an adult, allowing them to assert themselves as a parent to then manage a child account under the Children’s Online Protection Act.
  • At some point, they get to the situation where PRIVO wants them to verify their status as an adult. Denise is looking for additional ways parents can authenticate to her service with existing services, one being Veterans Advantage platform.
  • The idea is that parents in the state of Virginia can protect their children online by using credentials they already have by leveraging their DMW for verification purposes. Could also be used during registration process.
  • Dave Burhop indicated that the DMW can now work with commercial entities and do some pilots. This allows them to work with PRIVO to provide e-credentials to average citizens and working with private Relying Parties to support that.
  • Denise is trying to make it easier for parents to implement parental rights and not hand over so much information. She is interested in working on a pilot with Dave and bringing back findings to the VPWG.
  • Dave indicated that they haven’t decided on transaction fees for an e-credential. It may be $6 or $10 or no cost. If there is enough revenue to cover their costs, they might be able to issue e-credentials at no fee. That is one of the things they will be looking at during the pilot.
  • Jim Kragh asked about using biometrics for homeless. DMV has issued about 200 cards to homeless in Virginia. It is up to the shelter’s coordinators that reach out to DMV connect to identify and work with those agencies that can provide the records. If they don’t have passport or birth certificate then we can’t issue an official ID card to them from Virginia.
  • Dave says they offer Veterans ID cards and those can be used to vote through another program. It is not an ID card that is good enough to get on an airplane or into a federal building. Perhaps if we don’t have everything we need to issue an ID card, we may be able to issue a health ID card that is not as strong as an ID card, but it may serve its purpose.
  • LOA2 and LOA3 cards were discussed where there is some level of identification.
  • The question was asked “why is the level of assurance not being reached on the veterans’ cards?” Dave thinks it is because they are not doing a Social Security check against the SSA as one reason. They stopped short in doing this.
  • Roy Asfar – at Veterans Advantage they verify veterans through their own verified technology program. They are a standard in the travel industry - airlines. They have been verifying veterans’ status for airlines since 2004. United Airlines, JetBlue and Amtrak to name a few. Family members are also supported within the veteran’s family.
  • Could the Veterans Advantage architecture compliment work done in DWM to fill in gaps since DMW already supports veterans. Jim Kragh to work with Roy Asfar and Lin Higgins to see if this is something that might be able to be done.
  • For various agencies to adopt by the rest of the country, they need to see a value proposition – saving to Virginia on the corrections side and the benefit to person coming out of prison who has made a success of themselves coming out of prison.
  • Dave Burhop – on the correction side. Virginia DMW Connect Program has most of the same functionality as if someone went into the DMW counter – the program goes out to homeless shelters and corrections facilities – it has provided credentials to individuals. Virginia now has the lowest recidivism rate in the country and has saved Virginia money. It has had a big impact.
  • Dave Burhop then spoke about the Troops to Trucks Program in the trucking industry in Virginia. Through the Troops to TrucksSM program, DMV is making it easier for personnel trained by the military in the operation of heavy vehicles to obtain civilian commercial driver's licenses (CDL). A commercial driver's license is required to operate large trucks and buses. The program takes less time to get a CDL by waiving some requirements.
  • Jim Kragh asked people to consider those released from prison getting jobs, what about the homeless to get a card, and use the health system – this may be a positive return to the individuals and the community. We need to look at this in our package when we come back in 8-10 weeks to share with the rest of the VPWG. Dave Burhop says with the CASS system we have all the end points sitting out there ready to connect to so we should be able to come up with a solution relatively quickly.
  • Denise Tayloe noted that if anyone has further questions of her during the 8-10 week break, please contact her. The small team will get to work tactically with updates along the way. Catherine Schulten noted that the possible interaction with health care is exciting.
  • Jeff Brennan and Tom Jones will be meeting with the Gates Foundation next week in Seattle to discuss the work the VPWG is doing.


  • Adjourn 11:57 a.m. EDT

Next meeting:

  • TBD