Talk:Identity Design Patterns

Comment by tomj 2014-09-23

Ann R-R has suggested we discuss the use of design patterns on this page. Please use the format shown when you add a comment thread.

This is a response from Mary

Thanks for the comments.. .

Comment by maryhodder 2014-09-23

This idea for more discussion could happen on another thread. about approaches.

Comment by Ann Racuya-Robbins 2014-09-26

Features of a pattern language

• Fundamental to any ID solution is that it must exist in harmony with the rest of the internet. Each solution should expand and extend what already exists in the world. Each solution must take its place within the web of existing internet identity solutions.(ARR why?) (tj - perhaps a more elegant way to say this is "The early deployments of IDESG solutions need to meet the needs of users who deal daily with web solutions that are not IDESG compliant.")

Comment by Ann Racuya-Robbins 2014-09-26

RE: "The rationale for the use of patterns as the building blocks for the identity ecosystem was made nicely by Ray Kurzweil who describes himself as a "patternist, someone who views the patterns of information as the fundamental reality. For example the particles composing my brain and body change in a matter of weeks, but there is a continuity to the pattern that these particles make." So with the patterns of the id ecosystem. It is expected that the patterns will survive for multiple implementations. But all patterns will become inadequate to the job at some time in the future and will need to be replaced."

ARR: To base our IDESG human user experience on the work of Ray Kurzweil is very unsettling. This is not the right place nor is it appropriate to underpin the human experience on patterns of information. What does "patterns of information are the fundamental reality mean." This is part of that dystopic disembodied language that creates mistrust.

Tom Jones Response

hum, not sure what the problem is. If you don't like Kruzweil I could have quoted Heraclitus that you "cannot step twice into the same river". Meaning that the river is a named entity that continues its existence even though the water that makes it up is constantly changing.